June 16, 2023

I Can't Stop Rewatching Dune (now on Hulu)

I Can't Stop Rewatching Dune (now on Hulu)

Dune recently popped up on Hulu, and despite having already seen it 5 times, I immediately threw it on again. Since this first came out, every time I watch it, I like it even more. On this episode, a do a survey of the highest grossing 30 or so films...

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Dune recently popped up on Hulu, and despite having already seen it 5 times, I immediately threw it on again. Since this first came out, every time I watch it, I like it even more. On this episode, a do a survey of the highest grossing 30 or so films of the last 3 years, and compare them against Dune in terms of substance and staying power. This movie, so incredibly photographed, production designed, directed, written, scored - it is such an intriguing rewatch and I'm just even more knocked out by it as time passes. Where does Dune rank for you in the big movies of the last few years?

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Voyage. Welcome to watch this tonight. I'm your host, Dan Bettimore.

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I'm a producer, writer of film
and television and now a podcast producer.

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And despite having every streaming service,
I never know what to watch. So

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anytime I watch something good, I
talk about it on the show. This

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way, you'll never have the same
problem I do. I watched this tonight.

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There's always something good to watch.
Let's get started. Today in the

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show, we're talking about why I
can't stop watching Dune. So the trailer

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for the new Dune, the Second
Dune, came out relatively recently, and

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Dune has gone from I think it's
on HBO right now, it's on available

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on Hulu. And I realized that, like anytime I see the Dune is

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available somewhere, if I see that
it's on HBO, if I see it's

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on Hulu, if I see this
anywhere, I'm just like, let me

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throw a Dune on. And I'm
trying to figure out why I've seen it

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at this point, probably like six
times, and I'm trying to understand why

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I keep rewatching it, and I
feel like it's gaining in power for me

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the more times I watch it,
to the point that it might be one

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of my favorite, you know,
in terms of like blockbusters. I mean

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that was the other thing I was
trying to think about, like the highest

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grossing films of recent years. What's
better than Dune in terms of being like,

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you know, I don't like the
term elevated, but it's just like

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something that has real weight and real
substance and real Like if someone watches this

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in forty years and they have no
you know, they don't really care about

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any marble stuff or anything like that, Like they're still going to get something

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out of it. So if you
go back to twenty twenty one, the

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highest grossing movies domestic box office,
you've got Spider In, Shang Chi,

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Venom, Black Widow, Fast Nine, Eternals, So all sort of I

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think, just to be fair,
right, like these are franchise ip I

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don't think people are gonna be watching
Fast nine in like twenty five years.

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No Disrespect, No Time to Die, which I thought was really good,

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A Quiet Place Part two, which
I also thought was good, but I

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feel like it's sort of receded from
the public consciousness. I gotta go back

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and revisit it. And then you
get into movies like Jungle Cruise and Free

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Guy, Godzilla Versus Kong. You
know again, these are movies that I

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don't think will I don't think we'll
stand the test of decades, and then

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Dune Part one. Now compare that
to twenty twenty two. Here are the

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top grossing films domestically, Top Gun, Maverick, Awesome Movie, Black Panther,

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Willkona Forever, Doctor Strange and the
Multiverse of Madness, Avatar, The

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Way of Water, Touristic World,
Dominion, Minions, The Rise of Crew,

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The Batman, Thor Love and Funder
spider Man, No Way Home,

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Sound Like The Hedgehog two, Black
Adam, Elvis Uncharted, and you kind

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of have to go all the way
down to Nope to find something that I

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think, you know, it just
feels like it's not one of these ip

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films that you know, I think
most of them will probably be forgotten in

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like five to seven years. And
that's obviously not including Avachar The Way of

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Water, which I have professed my
love for on this podcast before. And

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then just to sort of round out
this comparison, so twenty twenty three,

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here of the top grossing movies so
far. The super Mayer Brothers Movie,

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Guardens the Galaxy Volume three, Avachar, The Way of Water Again, Spider

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Man Across the Spider Verse, The
Little Mermaid, Ant Man in the Waton,

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Quantamania, John Wyck, Chapter four, Creed three, Fast X,

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Puss in Boots, The Last Wish, Scream six, Megan Dungeons and Dragons,

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Transformers, Rise of the Beast,
Evil Dead, Rise, Cocaine Bear,

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A man called Auto says a fear
of the God's air. So I

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think if you look at the last
couple of years, So I just kind

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of rattled off, like, like
thirty movies there were the top grossing movies

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of the last three years approximately.
I think I would take the First Dune

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pretty much over all of those in
terms of its staying power, not necessarily

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to say, like again, it's
not not going to any of these movies,

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right, but I'm just thinking,
like, you know, is anybody

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watching again, No disrespect the Fast
and Furious people. I get it.

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I loved Fast five, Like,
there's a lot of Fast and Furious stuff

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that I really like, But I
don't think people are going to be watching

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Fast X like six times and puzzling
over it. And that's what I find

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myself continue to do a Dune.
I've not read the source materials. For

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me, that's part of it is
that I what interests me about it is

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that it feels so rich. I
feel like there's so much there, and

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when I rewatch it, I feel
like I keep finding stuff. There's something

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in it where Timothy Challamy talks in
the beginning about how he's having these dreams,

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and you feel like him as the
viewer, because this is what I

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think is so interesting about Dune,
and it's very much I think a product

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of Villanev's involvement, Deny villani of
It feels like a dream, but it

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doesn't feel like a dream in like
that kind of shitty like this is just

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confusing, like there's bad versions of
that where something feels like a dream.

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This feels like a dream in a
way that adds to it because it also

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feels grounded. And to explain what
I mean, when you see the spaceships

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in Dune and how they are designed
and animated and shown you visually, they're

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design in a way that's very smooth, very naturalistic. It's not calling attention

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to itself, and it makes it
almost feel like like a magical realism,

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like you feel it feels more real
because they don't make a big deal out

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of it, and they don't kind
of overdo it. If anything, the

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design of the spaceships feels very grounded
in like form and function, and I

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just I just find it very interesting
the way they did that. The movie

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is a mixture of like mysticism and
reality, has this weird mystical quality to

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it. And I thought another good
example that so the Skellon Scars guard character,

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who you know, I assume might
have inspired Job of the Hut.

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It's pretty well documented that George Lucas
is very inspired by the Dune series,

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and tattooing is a bit like Aracus. The sand worms are a bit like

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the sand worms, I mean,
And so do you have this Scone Scars

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character who is basically this extremely fat
villain character. That's the character, and

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in Star Wars that's Job of the
Hut, who's very cartoonish. But in

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Dune, the way that the character
is portrayed is very It's treated very seriously,

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right, and because it's treated seriously
and in a way that's sort of

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grounded in reality, you start thinking
about it differently and it almost becomes this

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visual metaphor for greed and brutal capitalism
to like a gluttonist degree. And again

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that dreamy quality. Right, So
there's a part when he's talking and he

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just levitates as he's talking, but
like for no real reason. That's one

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of the funny things when you watch
the movie five six times, Why is

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he levitating? It's very cinematic.
But again it's that thing where it's like

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in the moment, you sort of
go with it. That's that dream equality.

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Another point that like that, and
this is with the Hearkenin's which is

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part of Skull and Scars Guards like
faction. He has this insane spider gimp

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creature that's never explained. I gotta
look up. I've no idea if that's

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part of the source material or what. But the fact that that's just like

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a tossed off aside, that they
have this creature that's like a pet,

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it's like insane. But that's what
I'm talking about. That's why it's so

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fun to revisit this movie. All
the little weird visual things, all the

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subtlety of it, all the things
that are suggested, implied, alluded to.

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There's so much going on under the
surface and it feels so rich,

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you know it does. I mean, obviously it is rich. It's based

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on such rich source material, and
it is so visually spectacular. That's the

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other thing I would say is that
every frame of this movie is like a

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painting. There's a part where they
have this spaceship that looks like a giant

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thimble basically, and these little dots
are emerging from it and they're tiny like

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specs, right, and we tilt
up towards a planet that is sort of

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behind them, And that one shot
is doing so much because we know that

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we eventually know that those ships are
huge. Those ships are little specs,

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which means that the carrier thing that
they're coming out of is like almost it's

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almost impossible to comprehend how big it
is. So there's that, and then

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you have the light in dark contrast
of the darkness of space versus the planet,

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and that's all happening in the same
shot. And there's just so much

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like that in the movie that I
think it is a really just enjoyable for

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me to revisit. I find myself
just throwing it on as like almost like

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wallpaper, Like I just like looking
at it, I like hearing it.

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I like the sort of like if
you put the subtitles, they call it

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lamentation, where you hear the voices. Ah All, that's the whole mood

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of it. I mean, obviously, look, I am technically North African.

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My parents were Wren, Morocco,
so you know, the Fremen very

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clearly our bedwins. You know,
I have some cultural history that that might

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explain some of it. But I
think that as time has passed, I've

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continued to be more and more impressed
with the First Dune, and I think

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it's it's reached a place for me
where I think it's one of the best

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blockbuster movies, meaning like big,
big movie, theatrical lots of money,

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a huge budget, etc. Best
movies like that, not just the year

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came out, but in the last
couple of years. And that's why I

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mentioned all those other movies because with
some exceptions, to be clear, definitely

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there's some exceptions in there, but
a lot of those movies are movies that

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will be lost, I think,
to the sands of time, and I

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don't think that this one will be
so yeah, that's why I've just been

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it's a it's a watch this tonight
of like you never have movies where you're

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like, I liked it the first
time, and then I just found myself

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continue to watch it again and and
again, and each time I kind of

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like it a little bit more.
It's that kind of recommendation. So if

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for some reason you didn't see Dune, or maybe you saw it but like

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not under ideal circumstances, like you're
in a bad mood that day, or

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you watch it on your TV in
the middle of the day or something,

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I really would encourage you to turn
the lights off, watch it again.

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And I think there's so much there. So yeah, it's sort of a

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weird and it's not a new thing, and it's not a classic, but

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I think within the next couple of
years, you know, this will be

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considered a modern classic. I just
think it's extraordinary. I would love to

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know what you think if you saw
Dune the New Dune, I mean,

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what you think, And I would
love to know your thoughts on the upcoming

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second film, which I'm very excited
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