June 7, 2023
Reality (HBO)

An experimental 80 minute slow motion panic attack, HBO's new film Reality recreates a transcript of FBI agents interrogating and searching the home of Reality Winner (that's her real name) that would later be charged with violation of the Espionage...
An experimental 80 minute slow motion panic attack, HBO's new film Reality recreates a transcript of FBI agents interrogating and searching the home of Reality Winner (that's her real name) that would later be charged with violation of the Espionage Act. Syndey Sweeney really delivers a captivating performance in a film that is almost 100% reliant on her to function. What's really surprising is that the film is shot through with this bizarre, creeping Ari Aster style dread that elevates it beyond a simple docudrama. What did you think of Reality?
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Voyage. Welcome to watch this tonight. I'm your host, Dan Bettimore.
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I'm a producer, writer of film
and television and now a podcast producer.
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And despite having every streaming service,
I never know what to watch. So
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anytime I watch something good, I
talk about it on the show. This
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way, you'll never have the same
problem I do. I watched this tonight.
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There's always something good to watch.
Let's get started. Today on the
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show, we were talking about Reality, which is a new HBO original movie.
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I refuse to call it Max.
This is based they may go to
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great pains to let you know.
It's based on a transcript of an audio
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recording of the interrogation and arrest of
a woman who was ultimately charged with like
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violation. The espionage Actors like That
stars Sidney Sweeney from Euphoria. The headline
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is this is an eighty minute experiment
and as that it works pretty well.
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And I think in large part that's
due to the execution. Really good acting,
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really well directed, and you know, sometimes life conspires to create a
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scenario that is a natural thing for
drama. So this is a good one
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to sort of you know, if
you got eighty minutes, you want to
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try something a little bit unique to
kind of take a flyer on. If
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this had been even two hours,
it absolutely would not have worked. But
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they were smart about the running time, and I think that's a big part
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of why it works. And then
it's an incredible showcase for Cydny Sweeney,
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who I never watched Euphoria. I
have no knowledge of what's going on with
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her and all that. Obviously,
I know it has really launched her as
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a star and all that, but
this is almost like an eighty minute audition
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for her to know that she could
do anything, and you could put her
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in an Ariaster movie, like she
could have started Midsomar after you watch this,
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and actually, in a weird way, this feels kind of like an
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Ariaster movie at times. There's a
weird creepy feeling to it that sort of
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escalates as it goes along. But
basically the setup is, you know,
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you see Sydney Sweeney. She comes
home and there's a couple of guys outside
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her house and they show their badges
and they're with the FBI, and then
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it's just all kind of creeping dread. This is like an eighty minute panic
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attack in slow motion. They're sort
of making small talk with her and what's
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great about it and why it works, and it must have been true with
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just the transcript, and it would
it makes sense. They don't want to
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like alarm her. So it's very
much the frog and the boiling pot of
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water. Right they're there, they're
like, hey, you know, like
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they're so nice. The fact that
they're so nice it almost makes it creepier.
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And if you don't have if you
haven't like looked it up beforehand,
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which I suggest not doing acts,
just going in blind. You know,
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you know that she's in trouble,
but you don't know exactly the specifics,
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and so they're kind of making small
talk and then you know, it just
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gradually gets ratcheted up. So at
a certain point they're like, hey,
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do you have any guns in the
house, And you know, you almost
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expect her to be like no,
no, and she's like yep, and
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they're like, well, what do
you got? And I was like,
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well, I got a pink R
fifteen, I got a I think she's
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a fifteen gage and then a glock
nine and she sorted. So it's like
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oh okay, and then it just
keeps ratcheting and ratcheting and ratcheting. It's
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like a docu drama, Like it's
very much something that like David Simon could
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have made this, but the way
that it's directed has that ariaster creepiness.
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And I have an example of this. There's a part of this movie that
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I think I either I laughed and
exclaimed and it was really like a horror
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movie moment they established that there's a
toy truck across the street with a little
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Confederate flag on it and it's empty, it's sitting there across street. But
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then they cut back to it and
there's like a creepy cat sitting in the
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trunk looking at her, and it
was like a hard movie jump scares ou.
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So it does. It has this
weird tone to it that you would
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not expect that I think works really
well. And again it's it's it would
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be mundane if you didn't know that. The subtext of all the small talk
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with the FBI agents is that they
are about to nail her to the wall.
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I mean, it's going to end
badly. So that's the tension and
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subtext. As they're making small talk
about like yoga and CrossFit, and you're
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like, you know, they're searching
her house. There's a little moment where
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they leave her door open and she
like runs over to close it because she
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just want her cat to escape.
Was very relatable to me. I have
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two cats and we constantly do that. Um and but they but it's like
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a little moment of tension where they
like, you know, they think she's
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she's doing something else and the FBI
guys are there and all that, um,
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they do it the pet part of
this. They do a really good
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job of humanizing her because you know, she's got to take her dog out,
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put her dog in the in a
little sort of cage in the back
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or on the side of the house, and then she's worried about the cat.
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They put a leash on the cat. She's very concerned about her pets,
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and that really makes you feel for
her and also think about just like
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the logical things that would happen,
Like if the FBI shows up at my
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house today and they're like, we're
shutting down watch this tonight, you know
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they there would be like practical things
that would be an issue, right,
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It'd be like, you know,
like who's gonna pick up my kids from
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daycare and stuff like that, and
so you know, seeing her worry about
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that stuff again like really humanizes her
as a character. So you get invested
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in her story and you feel bad
for her as they keep asking her questions
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and her responses keep getting more and
more bad, you know. So first
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they're like, hey, you know, you wouldn't have taken out any sensitive
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documents and she's like, oh,
well there was one time, but it
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was misunderstanding. You're like, oh, okay, And then they keep asking,
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keep asking, keep asking, and
eventually she denies something and they're just
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like, we know you did,
and she just has to sort of give
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up the ghosts. And there's a
real transition where it's like it seems like
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she's gonna maybe just play innocent,
and like forty five minutes into it,
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it kind of turns and we just
start going down the rabbit hole into her
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psyche and understanding her and her motivations. And it's a very kind of claustrophobic
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movie. It's interesting. There's a
little part in it where she mentions that
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her dog was like abused and doesn't
like men, And after she says that,
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you become very aware of the fact
that it's like all male FBI agents
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sort of surrounding her, and eventually
there's a female FBI agent who does like
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a pat down on her at the
end. But yeah, it was fascinating.
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I thought that it was really an
incredible showcase for acting, because I'm
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sure in real life this was tense, but not like so beautifully performed.
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The guys who played the two FBI
agents who interrogate her the whole time are
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excellent. There's this one guy who
thinks glasses and he's wearing like a tucked
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in button down and he totally seems
like he's so polite. But at the
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same time, if you were to
tell it, like if this was a
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fictional story and it ended with the
reveal that this guy's like a serial killer,
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I would I would have bought it. I would have been like,
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makes sense at that tracks for me. So they just do a great job
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of creating this atmosphere of dread,
and it's incredible they're able to sustain it.
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Again, it's you know, they
were smart about the running time,
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but it does. There's only a
few actors that can hold up under this
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kind of thing. You know.
You think back to Ryan Reynolds, to
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the movie where he's buried in a
Coffin buried Colin Farrell phone booth. You
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know this play is like that.
It's just very moment to moment and you're
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really wrapped up in the tension of
it and it has to be short,
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which it is, And it was
just really interesting and they do a great
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job of Also, you know,
when there's something that's redacted, they actually
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the people blink out of existence.
They do a bunch of little touches to
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just keep reminding you, like,
this is real. It's all real.
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Here's a shot of the transcript where
they said this, it's like watching a
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documentary acted out by actors, but
not in like the cheesy way of like
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a docu drama. Like it's just
beautifully acted. So is it a movie
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that I will revisit a bunch of
times? Definitely not. Is it a
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cool movie to kind of take flyer
on and have a different kind of experience?
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I think so. I thought it
was really interesting and I'm glad it
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exists. I think it's a worthy
film and worth checking out. And that
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is on HBO, which, by
the way, I think part of the
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reason I end up watching that is
because I'm sad that there's no more succession
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in Barry. So if you know
what else to watch on HBO, I'm
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probably not going to watch The Idol. Let's be honest. That's first of
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all, obviously it's gotten a lot
of bad buzz, but also a tough
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watch for the two year old.
What should we watch next? On HBO?
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It almost feels like the rebranding to
Max. It feels like this potentially
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sad watershed moment where now when you
go on HBO, it's like, oh,
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did you like this movie for example
Reality, Well then you might also
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like like Chip and Joanna Gaines fix
up a kitchen, So you know they're
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They're a really interesting moment as a
brand, and I'm very curious where they're
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going to go from here. But
this movie was interesting and good and I
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think you shoul check it out.
That is the podcast for today. As
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always, thank you for listening.
Until next time, Bye,
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Voyage. Welcome to watch this tonight. I'm your host, Dan Bettimore.
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I'm a producer, writer of film
and television and now a podcast producer.
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And despite having every streaming service,
I never know what to watch. So
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00:00:29.519 --> 00:00:33.039
anytime I watch something good, I
talk about it on the show. This
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00:00:33.079 --> 00:00:36.200
way, you'll never have the same
problem I do. I watched this tonight.
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There's always something good to watch.
Let's get started. Today on the
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show, we were talking about Reality, which is a new HBO original movie.
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I refuse to call it Max.
This is based they may go to
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great pains to let you know.
It's based on a transcript of an audio
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recording of the interrogation and arrest of
a woman who was ultimately charged with like
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violation. The espionage Actors like That
stars Sidney Sweeney from Euphoria. The headline
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is this is an eighty minute experiment
and as that it works pretty well.
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And I think in large part that's
due to the execution. Really good acting,
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really well directed, and you know, sometimes life conspires to create a
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scenario that is a natural thing for
drama. So this is a good one
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to sort of you know, if
you got eighty minutes, you want to
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try something a little bit unique to
kind of take a flyer on. If
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this had been even two hours,
it absolutely would not have worked. But
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they were smart about the running time, and I think that's a big part
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of why it works. And then
it's an incredible showcase for Cydny Sweeney,
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who I never watched Euphoria. I
have no knowledge of what's going on with
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her and all that. Obviously,
I know it has really launched her as
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a star and all that, but
this is almost like an eighty minute audition
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for her to know that she could
do anything, and you could put her
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in an Ariaster movie, like she
could have started Midsomar after you watch this,
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and actually, in a weird way, this feels kind of like an
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Ariaster movie at times. There's a
weird creepy feeling to it that sort of
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escalates as it goes along. But
basically the setup is, you know,
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you see Sydney Sweeney. She comes
home and there's a couple of guys outside
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her house and they show their badges
and they're with the FBI, and then
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it's just all kind of creeping dread. This is like an eighty minute panic
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attack in slow motion. They're sort
of making small talk with her and what's
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great about it and why it works, and it must have been true with
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just the transcript, and it would
it makes sense. They don't want to
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like alarm her. So it's very
much the frog and the boiling pot of
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water. Right they're there, they're
like, hey, you know, like
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they're so nice. The fact that
they're so nice it almost makes it creepier.
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And if you don't have if you
haven't like looked it up beforehand,
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which I suggest not doing acts,
just going in blind. You know,
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you know that she's in trouble,
but you don't know exactly the specifics,
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and so they're kind of making small
talk and then you know, it just
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gradually gets ratcheted up. So at
a certain point they're like, hey,
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do you have any guns in the
house, And you know, you almost
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expect her to be like no,
no, and she's like yep, and
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they're like, well, what do
you got? And I was like,
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well, I got a pink R
fifteen, I got a I think she's
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a fifteen gage and then a glock
nine and she sorted. So it's like
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oh okay, and then it just
keeps ratcheting and ratcheting and ratcheting. It's
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like a docu drama, Like it's
very much something that like David Simon could
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have made this, but the way
that it's directed has that ariaster creepiness.
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And I have an example of this. There's a part of this movie that
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I think I either I laughed and
exclaimed and it was really like a horror
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movie moment they established that there's a
toy truck across the street with a little
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Confederate flag on it and it's empty, it's sitting there across street. But
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then they cut back to it and
there's like a creepy cat sitting in the
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trunk looking at her, and it
was like a hard movie jump scares ou.
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So it does. It has this
weird tone to it that you would
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not expect that I think works really
well. And again it's it's it would
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be mundane if you didn't know that. The subtext of all the small talk
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with the FBI agents is that they
are about to nail her to the wall.
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I mean, it's going to end
badly. So that's the tension and
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subtext. As they're making small talk
about like yoga and CrossFit, and you're
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like, you know, they're searching
her house. There's a little moment where
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they leave her door open and she
like runs over to close it because she
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just want her cat to escape.
Was very relatable to me. I have
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two cats and we constantly do that. Um and but they but it's like
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a little moment of tension where they
like, you know, they think she's
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she's doing something else and the FBI
guys are there and all that, um,
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they do it the pet part of
this. They do a really good
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job of humanizing her because you know, she's got to take her dog out,
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put her dog in the in a
little sort of cage in the back
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or on the side of the house, and then she's worried about the cat.
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They put a leash on the cat. She's very concerned about her pets,
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and that really makes you feel for
her and also think about just like
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the logical things that would happen,
Like if the FBI shows up at my
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house today and they're like, we're
shutting down watch this tonight, you know
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they there would be like practical things
that would be an issue, right,
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It'd be like, you know,
like who's gonna pick up my kids from
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daycare and stuff like that, and
so you know, seeing her worry about
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that stuff again like really humanizes her
as a character. So you get invested
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in her story and you feel bad
for her as they keep asking her questions
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and her responses keep getting more and
more bad, you know. So first
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they're like, hey, you know, you wouldn't have taken out any sensitive
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documents and she's like, oh,
well there was one time, but it
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was misunderstanding. You're like, oh, okay, And then they keep asking,
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keep asking, keep asking, and
eventually she denies something and they're just
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like, we know you did,
and she just has to sort of give
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up the ghosts. And there's a
real transition where it's like it seems like
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she's gonna maybe just play innocent,
and like forty five minutes into it,
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it kind of turns and we just
start going down the rabbit hole into her
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psyche and understanding her and her motivations. And it's a very kind of claustrophobic
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movie. It's interesting. There's a
little part in it where she mentions that
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her dog was like abused and doesn't
like men, And after she says that,
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you become very aware of the fact
that it's like all male FBI agents
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sort of surrounding her, and eventually
there's a female FBI agent who does like
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a pat down on her at the
end. But yeah, it was fascinating.
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I thought that it was really an
incredible showcase for acting, because I'm
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sure in real life this was tense, but not like so beautifully performed.
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The guys who played the two FBI
agents who interrogate her the whole time are
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excellent. There's this one guy who
thinks glasses and he's wearing like a tucked
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in button down and he totally seems
like he's so polite. But at the
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same time, if you were to
tell it, like if this was a
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fictional story and it ended with the
reveal that this guy's like a serial killer,
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I would I would have bought it. I would have been like,
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makes sense at that tracks for me. So they just do a great job
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of creating this atmosphere of dread,
and it's incredible they're able to sustain it.
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Again, it's you know, they
were smart about the running time,
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but it does. There's only a
few actors that can hold up under this
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kind of thing. You know.
You think back to Ryan Reynolds, to
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the movie where he's buried in a
Coffin buried Colin Farrell phone booth. You
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know this play is like that.
It's just very moment to moment and you're
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really wrapped up in the tension of
it and it has to be short,
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which it is, And it was
just really interesting and they do a great
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job of Also, you know,
when there's something that's redacted, they actually
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the people blink out of existence.
They do a bunch of little touches to
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just keep reminding you, like,
this is real. It's all real.
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Here's a shot of the transcript where
they said this, it's like watching a
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documentary acted out by actors, but
not in like the cheesy way of like
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a docu drama. Like it's just
beautifully acted. So is it a movie
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that I will revisit a bunch of
times? Definitely not. Is it a
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cool movie to kind of take flyer
on and have a different kind of experience?
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I think so. I thought it
was really interesting and I'm glad it
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exists. I think it's a worthy
film and worth checking out. And that
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is on HBO, which, by
the way, I think part of the
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reason I end up watching that is
because I'm sad that there's no more succession
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in Barry. So if you know
what else to watch on HBO, I'm
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probably not going to watch The Idol. Let's be honest. That's first of
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all, obviously it's gotten a lot
of bad buzz, but also a tough
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watch for the two year old.
What should we watch next? On HBO?
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It almost feels like the rebranding to
Max. It feels like this potentially
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sad watershed moment where now when you
go on HBO, it's like, oh,
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did you like this movie for example
Reality, Well then you might also
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like like Chip and Joanna Gaines fix
up a kitchen, So you know they're
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They're a really interesting moment as a
brand, and I'm very curious where they're
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going to go from here. But
this movie was interesting and good and I
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think you shoul check it out.
That is the podcast for today. As
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always, thank you for listening.
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