May 19, 2023

Still (Apple+)

Still (Apple+)

Don't worry, you'll be okay. If you were concerned the new Apple+ documentary Still, about Michael J. Fox, would leave you reduced to a puddle of tears on the floor, it's not that at all. Michael's optimism permeates the film, making for a documentary...

Apple Podcasts podcast player badge
Spotify podcast player badge
Castro podcast player badge
RSS Feed podcast player badge
iHeartRadio podcast player badge
Apple Podcasts podcast player iconSpotify podcast player iconCastro podcast player iconRSS Feed podcast player iconiHeartRadio podcast player icon
Don't worry, you'll be okay. If you were concerned the new Apple+ documentary Still, about Michael J. Fox, would leave you reduced to a puddle of tears on the floor, it's not that at all. Michael's optimism permeates the film, making for a documentary that is affirming and leaves you in a positive place, as well as a warts-and-all showbiz doc that ranks up there with The Kid Stays In The Picture and De Palma in presenting a behind-the-scenes look at some really well-known films and TV shows, in Michael's case including remarkable information about the making of Back To The Future and his later acting career that he juggled while hiding his diagnosis. This is, of course, a very moving doc, but don't be afraid of it. You'll enjoy it.

Trying to figure out, "What should I stream tonight?" Come back to Watch This Tonight as your podcast for the best movie recommendations for what to watch on streaming platforms. Please leave us a five-star review on Apple Podcasts if you're enjoying the show, and mention a movie or TV show you want me to cover (and I will). Subscribe for future episodes.

Reach out to us @BenamorDan (Twitter), watch_this_tonight (Instagram) or @watchthistonightpodcast (TikTok).

Watch This Tonight is a movie recommendation podcast and TV recommendation podcast, produced by Voyage Media. You can find other Voyage Media podcasts at voyagemedia.fm

Thanks for listening.
WEBVTT

1
00:00:01.320 --> 00:00:22.160
Voyage. Welcome to watch this tonight. I'm your host, Dan Bettimore.

2
00:00:22.320 --> 00:00:25.719
I'm a producer, writer of film
and television and now a podcast producer.

3
00:00:26.000 --> 00:00:29.519
And despite having every streaming service,
I never know what to watch. So

4
00:00:29.519 --> 00:00:33.039
anytime I watch something good, I
talk about it on the show. This

5
00:00:33.079 --> 00:00:36.200
way, you'll never have the same
problem I do. I watched this tonight.

6
00:00:36.399 --> 00:00:40.039
There's always something good to watch.
Let's get started. Today. In

7
00:00:40.079 --> 00:00:44.119
the show, we were talking about
the Apple Plus documentary. Still so I

8
00:00:44.119 --> 00:00:46.799
don't do a ton of documentaries on
this show. You know, when you

9
00:00:46.799 --> 00:00:50.200
have a movie or television show,
you can talk about the acting, the

10
00:00:50.240 --> 00:00:53.759
writing, and documentary. A lot
of times there's not that much to talk

11
00:00:53.799 --> 00:00:56.840
about, but I definitely wanted to
talk about this one. You know,

12
00:00:56.840 --> 00:01:00.439
it's funny. I mentioned to my
wife. I told her, I like,

13
00:01:00.439 --> 00:01:03.280
you should watch this. He said, I don't want to cry,

14
00:01:03.560 --> 00:01:06.400
And honestly, it's the reason I
was hesitant to watch it as well,

15
00:01:06.480 --> 00:01:08.519
because I was afraid it would be
extremely depressing and I would just be on

16
00:01:08.920 --> 00:01:14.120
the floor weeping the entire time.
And I actually did not cry. I

17
00:01:14.159 --> 00:01:19.959
didn't cry, and I don't think
that it's even particularly sad, and I

18
00:01:19.000 --> 00:01:23.239
think that that's actually what it's about. That it's not sad in a weird

19
00:01:23.319 --> 00:01:29.879
way. So yeah, it's it's
I would say that if your concern is

20
00:01:29.920 --> 00:01:34.439
that this will be so depressing and
oh it'll just be this devastatingly sad thing,

21
00:01:34.879 --> 00:01:38.280
that's not what it's about at all. And I think that the fact

22
00:01:38.280 --> 00:01:42.920
that it's not like that is actually
what makes it a great documentary. Really.

23
00:01:42.680 --> 00:01:46.799
Now, I will say there was
there was one part I won't spoil

24
00:01:46.840 --> 00:01:49.159
it where I did actually almost cry, and that's when Michael J. Fox's

25
00:01:49.200 --> 00:01:53.359
Canadian accent came out at a very
sweet moment. I went to film school

26
00:01:53.400 --> 00:01:59.840
in Canada, and there's a thing
with Canadians when they get emotional or they've

27
00:01:59.840 --> 00:02:04.519
been drinking or whatever, there's like
an element to the accent that kind of

28
00:02:04.560 --> 00:02:09.280
can become more pronounced, and that
happens with him at this really particular moment

29
00:02:09.360 --> 00:02:12.919
and it was very moving and anyway, so I'm not going to spoil it

30
00:02:12.919 --> 00:02:14.960
for you, but that was the
part where I almost cried. But what's

31
00:02:15.080 --> 00:02:19.960
most engaging about the documentary and it
sort of is all tied into him,

32
00:02:20.159 --> 00:02:23.439
right, It's all about him,
his personality, his career, and how

33
00:02:23.439 --> 00:02:27.960
he's dealing with Parkinson's. Michael J. Fox is the guy who always had

34
00:02:28.000 --> 00:02:31.479
like little guy syndrome in the sense
that he got into acting because he always

35
00:02:31.520 --> 00:02:35.960
looked younger than he was. And
then it was very difficult for him to

36
00:02:36.000 --> 00:02:39.879
achieve major success and he was totally
broke until he got family ties, and

37
00:02:39.919 --> 00:02:44.319
then from there, pretty much every
stage of his life is just running,

38
00:02:44.479 --> 00:02:47.560
running, running, running, like
literally running, figurative and running. Just

39
00:02:47.599 --> 00:02:52.639
a workaholic, constantly working, ends
up getting married, starts having children,

40
00:02:53.039 --> 00:02:55.479
and it sounds like his life didn't
really change. At one point, he

41
00:02:55.520 --> 00:03:00.639
describes his wife as a single mom, which speaks to him being just gone

42
00:03:00.639 --> 00:03:04.879
all the time. The reason that
this is called stay is because it took

43
00:03:05.400 --> 00:03:10.039
Parkinson's to get him to slow down, and and and even Parkinson's, it's

44
00:03:10.120 --> 00:03:14.240
hard for him to slow down.
You see him, you see the people

45
00:03:14.319 --> 00:03:16.560
with him, you know, caring
for him, telling him repeatedly to slow

46
00:03:16.599 --> 00:03:21.080
down. And there's a part early
in the documentary when he's kind of walking

47
00:03:21.080 --> 00:03:25.759
down the street and he just eats
it into the concrete and a lady is

48
00:03:25.759 --> 00:03:30.680
walking by and sees him, and
she sees him before he falls, and

49
00:03:30.719 --> 00:03:32.879
then after he falls, she goes
back to see if he needs help getting

50
00:03:32.960 --> 00:03:36.759
up, and he says, you
knocked me off my feet, and so

51
00:03:36.800 --> 00:03:39.599
he still has his incredible charm.
Um. But yeah, it's like you

52
00:03:39.680 --> 00:03:45.680
get the sense that Michael was always
just running and moving and doing stuff and

53
00:03:46.080 --> 00:03:49.520
it took you know, it's it's
it's pretty clearly a point they make in

54
00:03:49.560 --> 00:03:53.199
the documentary that it kind of took
this for him to slow down and be

55
00:03:53.319 --> 00:03:58.319
president with his family, and there's
really there is like a beauty in that.

56
00:03:58.639 --> 00:04:02.759
And you know, again he really
says explicitly in the documentary like this,

57
00:04:03.080 --> 00:04:06.479
you know, if this was about
oh poor me and all that kind

58
00:04:06.479 --> 00:04:10.360
of stuff, you know, how
how boring would that be. He actually

59
00:04:10.360 --> 00:04:13.479
says that, you know, it's
almost word for word at one point in

60
00:04:13.520 --> 00:04:15.879
the documentary. I don't know if
he's um, you know what, I'm

61
00:04:15.879 --> 00:04:19.040
gonna look it up really quick.
He still speaks. You know, it's

62
00:04:19.079 --> 00:04:25.879
not his his charm and his personality
have not been diminished by the Parkinson's Like

63
00:04:26.000 --> 00:04:30.439
he's he's still in there, um, you know, and he's you can

64
00:04:30.480 --> 00:04:33.079
see him like he's still funny and
you know, he's he's sharp. It's

65
00:04:33.120 --> 00:04:38.720
not it hasn't affected his mind,
it's just it's you've seen how it's affected

66
00:04:38.839 --> 00:04:41.600
his body. So yeah, the
last time he acted was in The Good

67
00:04:41.600 --> 00:04:46.120
Fight in twenty twenty, and then
he did the audio narration of his of

68
00:04:46.160 --> 00:04:49.240
his book. Um, you see
him according it in the thing in the

69
00:04:49.279 --> 00:04:54.160
documentary. UM. I hope,
I honestly hope that he does some voice

70
00:04:54.160 --> 00:04:56.839
work. I really think he could. I know it would be challenging for

71
00:04:56.959 --> 00:05:00.439
him, UM, but you know, I feel like he do it.

72
00:05:00.439 --> 00:05:04.480
What I found really remarkable is that
at the end of the documentary I kind

73
00:05:04.519 --> 00:05:08.639
of realized, Wow, this has
just been him the whole time, Like

74
00:05:08.680 --> 00:05:11.680
it's not one of those documents we're
flying around a million different talking heads.

75
00:05:11.720 --> 00:05:15.560
It's really pretty much just him,
and it's totally compelling. It was it

76
00:05:15.639 --> 00:05:18.399
went by really fast. I found
like it was one of those things where

77
00:05:18.600 --> 00:05:21.800
it was hard to pull myself away. You ever watch something where you're you

78
00:05:21.839 --> 00:05:25.199
know, you have other stuff you
gotta do, and you're like, ah,

79
00:05:25.240 --> 00:05:27.399
I can I can push it another
ten minutes. I want to keep

80
00:05:27.399 --> 00:05:30.399
watching this. That's what it was
like watching this. I actually think it's

81
00:05:30.399 --> 00:05:34.160
a great show biz documentary as well, because it's really like how this is

82
00:05:34.160 --> 00:05:38.959
all tied up into his career is
a significant part of the story. You

83
00:05:38.959 --> 00:05:42.680
know, when Michael eventually gets diagnosed
with Parkinson's, he hit it for like

84
00:05:42.800 --> 00:05:47.920
seven years and just kept working,
and it required him to not only be

85
00:05:48.040 --> 00:05:53.480
acting, but also on top of
the acting, he has to do things

86
00:05:53.560 --> 00:05:58.160
with his acting to hide his Parkinson's
symptoms, and he has to carefully modulate,

87
00:05:58.199 --> 00:06:00.879
Like wend He's taking the drugs that
helped tamp down those symptoms so that

88
00:06:01.279 --> 00:06:05.120
you know they're active when he's working, and it's hard enough to be an

89
00:06:05.160 --> 00:06:11.160
actor, you know, to then
do all of that. It shows you

90
00:06:11.199 --> 00:06:14.480
what an incredible actor he really was, and it actually made him in a

91
00:06:14.519 --> 00:06:17.360
weird way, like see McQueen.
Like see McQueen. My favorite story for

92
00:06:17.439 --> 00:06:23.920
Magnificent seven. L brennan was pissed
off because Steve McQueen kept drawing attention away

93
00:06:23.920 --> 00:06:27.000
from him because he was always polishing
a glass doing some of his hands and

94
00:06:27.399 --> 00:06:30.439
Michael did that too, but he
just did it to hide his parkinson symptoms.

95
00:06:30.759 --> 00:06:32.439
I also did not know about his
alcoholism, which he talks about very

96
00:06:32.480 --> 00:06:36.759
candidly in the documentary. You know, and just generally this kind of frantic

97
00:06:36.920 --> 00:06:40.959
quality of his life. I think
that most people when they think about Michael

98
00:06:41.000 --> 00:06:44.680
Jay Fox, they think that he's
just a really nice guy. And he's

99
00:06:44.680 --> 00:06:47.120
a nice guy, but but you
know, you don't necessarily think that he

100
00:06:47.240 --> 00:06:51.120
had all these challenges, and he
really did. It's a very intimate look

101
00:06:51.120 --> 00:06:55.959
at all that, and he handles
the Parkinson's very gracefully, and I think

102
00:06:56.000 --> 00:07:00.279
the documentary does an excellent job of
avoiding the temptation of the hanging fruit right.

103
00:07:00.360 --> 00:07:03.680
It could easily there's a million different
moments in the documentary that could have

104
00:07:03.720 --> 00:07:08.879
easily been very smaltsey, and it's
not at all. It's one of those

105
00:07:08.879 --> 00:07:14.040
things that you watch and you really
stop and take a sagad and have some

106
00:07:14.079 --> 00:07:16.600
perspective about your own life, because
you know the stuff you take for granted.

107
00:07:16.920 --> 00:07:20.839
It's very life affirming. I think
it actually makes to me what I

108
00:07:20.879 --> 00:07:24.920
took away from him is like,
even with something like this that is so

109
00:07:25.079 --> 00:07:29.120
challenging happening to him, you know, he hasn't been diminished by it.

110
00:07:30.079 --> 00:07:33.800
And there's you know, while obviously
it's a terrible thing that he's going through,

111
00:07:34.240 --> 00:07:39.399
there are elements of it that were
positive for him as as sort of

112
00:07:39.399 --> 00:07:43.680
a side effect of it, you
know, in terms of really now being

113
00:07:43.720 --> 00:07:46.360
present for his family, and again
he'd be you know, explicitly kind of

114
00:07:46.360 --> 00:07:49.279
calls that out in there. It
reminded me a lot of the Brian De

115
00:07:49.360 --> 00:07:53.319
Palma documentary, if anybody's seen that. And also the kids stays in the

116
00:07:53.319 --> 00:07:57.560
picture. So those are two other
really good like show based docs. One

117
00:07:57.839 --> 00:08:01.399
basically one speaker. And there's an
ante that Brian De Palma tells in that

118
00:08:01.439 --> 00:08:05.000
documentary about Michael J. Fox.
So Brian de Palma does a Vietnam movie.

119
00:08:05.079 --> 00:08:07.680
I think it's I want to say, Casuals of War and there's a

120
00:08:07.720 --> 00:08:11.480
scene when Michael J. Fox has
to get really mad at Schohn Penn and

121
00:08:11.560 --> 00:08:15.399
Michael J. Fox is just not
getting there right, They're doing taking He's

122
00:08:15.439 --> 00:08:20.240
not getting there, and Shohn Penn
finally like pushes him and he says under

123
00:08:20.279 --> 00:08:24.399
his breath to him television actor,
and then Depalmas like, all right,

124
00:08:24.480 --> 00:08:26.519
role it. And then Michael J. Fox got there right, He got

125
00:08:26.519 --> 00:08:30.879
where he needed to go to get
really mad at Schohn Penn, and they

126
00:08:30.920 --> 00:08:35.039
got the porns they needed. And
that really makes sense even more after watching

127
00:08:35.039 --> 00:08:37.759
this documentary because that's Michael J.
Fox this whole thing. He's like,

128
00:08:37.320 --> 00:08:41.600
you know, he is almost the
epitome of that, that kind of truism.

129
00:08:41.639 --> 00:08:45.159
It's not the size of the dog
in the fight, it's the size

130
00:08:45.240 --> 00:08:48.559
of the fight and the dog Like
that's his whole thing. He's always been

131
00:08:48.639 --> 00:08:50.720
like, you know, I'm the
little guy, but I'll you know,

132
00:08:50.759 --> 00:08:52.279
even again, he even says in
the documentary it's like, hey, you

133
00:08:52.320 --> 00:08:56.039
know, if you you might be
bigger than me, but I will hit

134
00:08:56.080 --> 00:08:58.080
you and I will hurt you.
Right, He's he's like a force of

135
00:08:58.200 --> 00:09:03.120
nature. I knew the name Davis
Guggenheim on the director and you hear him

136
00:09:03.200 --> 00:09:05.360
kind of off camera interviewing Michael throughout
the documentary. I was like, I

137
00:09:05.440 --> 00:09:07.879
know the name, you know,
so I wouldn't looked up what he's done.

138
00:09:09.240 --> 00:09:13.720
First of all, Davis Guggenheim extremely
cool guy. Went to Sidwell friends,

139
00:09:13.759 --> 00:09:18.039
I went to Baltimore Friends. Worked
on The Shield and Deadwood, along

140
00:09:18.080 --> 00:09:20.200
with a ton of other stuff NYPD
Blue, I mean really a ton of

141
00:09:20.240 --> 00:09:24.399
great credits. Married Elizabeth Shoe and
then directed three or four of the best

142
00:09:24.399 --> 00:09:30.559
documentaries in the last like twenty years. So he did an Inconvenient Truth he

143
00:09:30.679 --> 00:09:35.159
named me Malala waiting for Superman.
So definitely a documentary director who's at the

144
00:09:35.159 --> 00:09:39.799
top of his game. I would
add as a last point, you know

145
00:09:39.840 --> 00:09:41.879
we've all if you're listening to those, chances are you've seen Back to the

146
00:09:41.960 --> 00:09:46.639
Future, right. I had no
idea that the way that Michael J.

147
00:09:46.759 --> 00:09:50.440
Fox made Back to the Future was
like one of the most insane, workaholic

148
00:09:50.480 --> 00:09:54.240
things that I can possibly imagine,
And for him to pull that off and

149
00:09:54.279 --> 00:09:58.080
give the poormans that he does in
Back to the Future is amazing. So

150
00:09:58.120 --> 00:10:01.440
that whole segment we find how he
made Back to the Future where he was

151
00:10:01.519 --> 00:10:07.080
like literally like he breaks it down
the entire day schedule because he was doing

152
00:10:07.159 --> 00:10:11.840
his sitcom and doing Back to the
Future simultaneously, leaning like on the same

153
00:10:11.960 --> 00:10:18.360
days. He for him to do
it required him to sleep two hours a

154
00:10:18.559 --> 00:10:22.639
night it was, and they break
it down like almost an hour by hour

155
00:10:22.759 --> 00:10:24.639
how he did it, And anyway, I thought that was really interesting as

156
00:10:24.679 --> 00:10:28.320
well. So there's a lot of
great like showbiz stuff in this as well

157
00:10:28.360 --> 00:10:33.639
as a very moving but not super
depressing portrait of someone going through obviously this

158
00:10:35.080 --> 00:10:39.279
terrible disease. So still Michael J. Fox excellent documentary, totally worth watching.

159
00:10:39.919 --> 00:10:43.320
Not only will it not bum you
out, but I think you'll come

160
00:10:43.360 --> 00:10:46.759
out of it feeling really sort of
energized in a positive way. I think

161
00:10:46.879 --> 00:10:52.519
his positivity totally comes out of this
documentary. So I totally if you have

162
00:10:52.600 --> 00:10:56.039
a plus, really encourage you to
watch still and honestly, even if you

163
00:10:56.080 --> 00:10:58.200
don't, I would rent it,
like I think it was that good.

164
00:10:58.399 --> 00:11:01.000
So that is the show for today. As always, thank you so much

165
00:11:01.039 --> 00:11:07.360
for listening. You can always reach
out to me at dan advoidmia dot com

166
00:11:07.480 --> 00:11:11.720
and we're down on Twitter, watch
This Tonight on Instagram, and watch This

167
00:11:11.879 --> 00:11:15.919
Night podcast on TikTok. I did
get a little note from a listener because

168
00:11:15.919 --> 00:11:20.519
I'd asked for people's favorite, you
know, their dad's favorite movie, and

169
00:11:20.879 --> 00:11:26.559
he mentioned Enemy Mine, which is
a nineteen eighty five sci fi action movie

170
00:11:26.600 --> 00:11:31.840
starring Dennis Quaid and Lue Gossip Junior
directed by Wolfgang Peterson. And it's basically

171
00:11:31.840 --> 00:11:37.039
like a like a bromance between a
spaceship pilot played by Dennis Quaid and and

172
00:11:37.480 --> 00:11:43.559
I think I guess lue Gossa Junior
plays like an alien and it's like anyway,

173
00:11:43.600 --> 00:11:48.679
So I just thought what a great
I felt like a great pick for

174
00:11:48.720 --> 00:11:54.039
a dad movie. So yeah,
I appreciate that's my buddy Nate listener of

175
00:11:54.080 --> 00:11:58.240
the show for sending that over great
dad pick. Anyway, that is the

176
00:11:58.240 --> 00:12:05.159
show for today. Thank you for
listening until next time. Bye bye mm

177
00:12:05.320 --> 00:12:15.159
hm m m m m m m
m m