Dec. 2, 2022
Episode One

Psychotherapist Dr. Dromyrk (Peter Stormare, Fargo, Constantine) meets a strange new client, a lowly corporal with a God-complex… Adolf Hitler (Denis O'Hare, American Horror Story).
The Hitler File is a production of Voyage Media. The series is...
Psychotherapist Dr. Dromyrk (Peter Stormare, Fargo, Constantine) meets a strange new client, a lowly corporal with a God-complex… Adolf Hitler (Denis O'Hare, American Horror Story).
The Hitler File is a production of Voyage Media. The series is produced by Nat Mundel, Robert Mitas, and Dan Benamor. Directed and produced by Dan Benamor. Written by Desmond Fosbery, based on the novel The Dromyrk File by Brandon Rolfe. You can find the novel on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Dromyrk-File-Brandon-Rolfe/dp/1909204943
Starring Peter Stormare, as Dr. Dromyrk, Denis O’Hare, as Adolf Hitler, Kieren Van den Blink as Tilda Mannleifen, Jerome St. Jerome as Krunz, and Gianluca Malacrino as Falzoni. Edited, sound designed and mixed by Nick Messitte. Original music by Derlis Gonzalez.
If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a 5 star review in Apple Podcasts or anywhere you’re listening, and subscribe now for future episodes.
The Hitler File is a production of Voyage Media. The series is produced by Nat Mundel, Robert Mitas, and Dan Benamor. Directed and produced by Dan Benamor. Written by Desmond Fosbery, based on the novel The Dromyrk File by Brandon Rolfe. You can find the novel on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Dromyrk-File-Brandon-Rolfe/dp/1909204943
Starring Peter Stormare, as Dr. Dromyrk, Denis O’Hare, as Adolf Hitler, Kieren Van den Blink as Tilda Mannleifen, Jerome St. Jerome as Krunz, and Gianluca Malacrino as Falzoni. Edited, sound designed and mixed by Nick Messitte. Original music by Derlis Gonzalez.
If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a 5 star review in Apple Podcasts or anywhere you’re listening, and subscribe now for future episodes.
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Any thoughts that medicine had advanced considerably
in the last hundred years of warfare quickly
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banished as I walked into Belitz Military
Hospital outside Berlin. I'm here to work
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on the Professor Bernheim, one of
Germany's pre eminent psychiatrists, and he's happy
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to tell you so. Bernheim struggles
to pronounce my name, and to be
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fair, I'm Swedish old of Drummer. I studied under Professor Sigmund Freud in
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Vienna. Bernheim knows how to pronounce
Freud's name and does so, as one
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might say, as a curse.
Labor One is a fan of Freud and
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is emerging psychoanalytical methods, but I
specialize in them. Most of the patients
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in the general ward here have terrible
physical wounds. Those in the psychiatric unit
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are suffering from a newly designated ailment, shell shock, and according to Freud,
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all these men have severe and roses
leading to organic symptoms sound organs,
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refusing function, limbs, tongue,
eyes. Here all unresponsive to incoming stimulate
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the shocked brain. Worth witness or
experience incidents so horrific as to be unbearable
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would diverge by converting these blocked out
memories into physical pain or fault in order
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to render them in a more acceptable
form. I sit in my clinical room.
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There is a knock on the door, and my first patient comes in
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and hands over his fire pale,
brooding with a thick brush mustache. He
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stands at attention while he looks at
me. I can feel his eyes boring
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into me. I read the medical
pile. Adolf Hitler Corporal Signal Runner sixteenth
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Bavarian Reserve Regiment, shrapnel wound to
left thigh at Psalm nineteen sixteen, Awarded
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the Iron Cross, a second class
reposted to a front line after discharge.
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Must At gas victim at Uprey in
nineteen eighteen, temporary blindness. I'm fit
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to turn. That's not yet decided, corporal, I'm fitted to return.
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How So two years ago the howardzer
shell kid all around me. I survived.
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Why Well, there could be many
reasons. Name one. Look and
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now you're once again an unfortunate victim
and a mustard gas attack at the prey
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and you sustain another significant injury.
I am not a victim. Well you
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did, nevertheless, suffering the attack, did you not? Does it not
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stay there? That I was struck
blind. Yeah, do I seem blind?
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Apparently your blindness was temporary. Do
you recall Soul of Tauses Saint Paul?
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Yes? I do, He too
was an aream and he was struck
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blind. I see he went on
like this. His military exploit gave him
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a feeling of being Destiny's chosen son. His constant harping on his special status
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to me screamed of deep insecurity.
Before I went to medical school in Vienna,
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Professor Sigmund Freud had developed his theories
and the practice of psychoanalysis. He
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maintained that people suffer inherent of roses
stemming from traumatic episodes dating from earliest childhood,
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even from birth, and that these
are suppressed deeply within their subconscious mind.
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We have frequent sessions during Corporal Hitler's
stay here at Belitz, his combatative
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and clearly feels my presence is an
annoyance to be suffered through. Would you
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care to talk to me about your
childhood? Why? Well? Were you
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happy as a child? My childhood
has no pertinence. It could I wish
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to be discharged now returned to active
duty? Were I beaten and sodomized as
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a child, or lovingly handled his
supportive care. Neither would change the fact
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that I am a capable soldier and
I belong with my men. Well,
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you're not yet ready for that,
corpron We have a little way to go
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before you deemed fit for further military
service. More sessions went on fruitlessly.
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Finally, in desperation, I tried
another tactic, Corporal Adolph, I know
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you've seen death. I have as
well, another of your patients, perhaps
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a suicide, as the tired of
your babbling no no. When I was
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six, I had a playmate at
school, a girl. Her name was
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Elsa. We were at the same
age. One wet afternoon, her mother
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caught the two of us in a
woodshed examining each other. As neither of
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us had a brother or a sister. It was a union situation as we
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discovered the essential difference between boys and
girls. What happened, Well, to
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back up, Elsa did have a
brother, but he drowned in a lake
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when she was just a baby,
and her father had died in a shipwreck
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before she was born. So it
was just Elsa, who used to stutter,
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and a mother who was very,
very strict, And that afternoon,
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when she discovered us, her mother
was very angry and threatened to get to
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my grandfather to cut off my penis
with his biggest knife. He and my
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father are both surgeons. After that, I started to stutter, just like
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Elsa. Ever well, went on
distress. My grandmother said Elsa's family had
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madness. I asked my father what
cost it, and he said men caught
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sickness from women that led to madness, nearly your disease. My mother said,
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none of that's wrong. She said
Elsa's mother was that way because of
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her family's misfortune. But that's not
the worst part. What is Six years
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later, hours away at boarding school, and came home for the summer vacation
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to some terrible news. At that
time, Else had started to menstruate and
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her mother could not cope, so
she stabbed Helps to death and then hanged
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herself. Madness, madness, Yes, why would you tell me this?
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Ever since those episodes have prevented me
from establishing relationships with girls and now with
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women, your childhood has affected your
adult life. Yes, I never told
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anyone this before. Thank you.
From then on, our relationship changed.
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I learned about him, both from
him and from others in the hospital,
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and knew him Adolf Hitler was born
in Austria in eighteen eighty nine and his
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father, Aloua, was the illegitimate
son of Mariah Schicklgruber, and when Mariah
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became the third wife of Johann Heidler, he adopted the five year old boy.
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But it wasn't until he was forty
that Aloa Schicklgruber legally changed its surname
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to Hidler, and it was rumored
that Aloua's father had been the son of
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a Jewish family for whom his mother, Maria, had worked as a housekeeper.
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After spending a career as a custom
officer, by eighteen ninety six,
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was retired to a small farm in
half Her, Austria, where he kept
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livestock and bees while his wife,
Hitler's mother Clara, tended her vegetable garden.
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This garden would be the source of
Hitler's first significant confession to me.
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I was seven and my mother was
alone in her vegetable garden when she discovered
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that my father's ducks had ripped up
her garden pea plants, and she threatened
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to wring their necks in her distress. She did not know I had overheard
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her, as I was coming from
the house and going off to the village,
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and you did something about this.
In the village, I was accosted
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by some bigger boys who bullied me
and insulted my father and my mother.
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I ran back home in a rage
and killed all my father's ducks. And
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how did your parents react? I
did it to please my mother, but
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my father didn't see it that day
and I received a severe beating. Now,
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how did you feel about that?
Betrayed better? I got used to
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them. Corporal Hitler remained under my
care at the village for the next few
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weeks. We had established our patient
therapist bomb but he remained frustrated at his
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medical incarceration. He was still there
when Kaiser Wilhelm abdicated and Germany's surrender and
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the armistice was signed in November nineteen
eighteen. Admissed the general celebration and relief
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being expressed by all the other patients
and staff. Corporal Hitler remained aloof becoming
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more and more angered and hysterical,
and after the war he returned to Munich,
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but remained in the army and was
appointed as an intelligence agent to infiltrate
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the German workers Party there. His
nationalist views and oratorical skills led him to
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becoming a member of the party,
and by nineteen twenty four he was the
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leader of the National Socialist German Workers'
Party known as the Nazi Party. Though
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I lost track of him as a
patient, his name appeared often in the
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newspapers as his political activities advanced,
and I maintained a close interest in him.
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Then I happened to be spending an
eight in Munich on my way to
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Vianna to visit my old mentor.
Passing around a beer hall, I heard
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this unmistakable voice. A meeting was
being addressed by my one time patient,
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and I decided to go in.
I never not a backer, I perfectly
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can vouch forever changed, said the
back. I do not recall seeing you
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here before? Good morning? Are
you a party member? Well, no,
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no, I'm just passing through me
and to come away to Vienna.
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I'm known Adol for some years and
I just wanted to come and see him
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again in actual so to speak.
What he remember you? I'm sure he
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will, who hasn't seen me since
he was in Bellaire. In that case,
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I can arrange it. After the
meetings. Stay here. You must
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consider joining the party. You know, if we need men like you,
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I'm sure you understand. I want
a brute, just basic security. You
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understand, m zaghaire mine fila.
Who is this? He says, You
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and he are old friends from Poulin. Ah, I see it now,
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the good doctor. My mind is
too preoccupied, Colm Doronic, How are
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you sit down? Oh? Well, thank you. I'm sure you're very
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busy these days. Indeed, I
am here. I want you to take
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that and study it. My book, Oh mind comps I struggle, But
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he's not a victim. I wrote
it while in prison. Can you believe
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it? They put me in prison
for disturbing the peace. They called it
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treason. I told them I was
standing up for German workers' rights, and
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they led me out once they realized
how mistaken they were. We heard about
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it in Berlin. In Berlin,
yes, So what brings you to Munich?
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Apart from seeing me? Of course, I'm on my way to the
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add to visit my old mentor,
Professor Freud. The glow went out in
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his eyes, Sigmund Freud, charlottean
and some people think so well, I'm
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not one of them. You shouldn't
associate with someone like him. They are
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better German experts on the mind.
You're German, why not learn from them.
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I'm Swedish and I came to this
country by way of Professor Bernheim's invitation
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and to work under him. No, no, I had, doctor Drummer.
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You are mistaken. You came to
this country because it was your destiny
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to recognize Germany as the greatest,
the strongest of all nations. You came
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from Swee, but your father was
German. I noticed only a German father
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could have endowed you with the distinct
features blue eyes, blonde hair, strong
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physique that our destiny's emblem. I'm
sorry to disappoint you, but my father
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is also Swedish. He grinned,
but it was a grin that left a
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cold pit of dread in my stomach. Thank you for the visit, doctor,
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Remember what I told you, A
man like you should join the party.
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It will stand you in good stead. Mind how you go Nowadays,
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Munich can be our of city,
especially at night. In my deal with
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Hitler, I found him to always
have a simmering fanitism, mostly about himself,
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lurking beneath the surface. Slight though
he was in some ways I felt
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the man shouting at an audience was
his true form, whilst the man who
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smiled at me was another mask,
a person like him having found evodeed followers.
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Well, I didn't know what to
make of it. The following day,
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I traveled to Vianna and visited my
old professor. He gave me a
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concert ticket that he was unable to
use. I didn't realize how much that
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gift was to change my life,
as I told Hitler, which I remember
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with a feeling of violation. Since
boyhood I had a trouble relating to girls,
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and perhaps even more so to women
as I grew older. M a
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border cissage from the flower cellar outside
the concert hall, and I took it
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to the violinist who had thrilled me
as she departed with her violin case.
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Ms Man Leafen. Yes, would
you please accept this small token for the
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joy you have given me this evening? How kind? Thank you? Won't
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you put it for me just here? I'm not sure I can do that?
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Oh please do It's very easy,
but I'm hindered carrying this all right,
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like like this perfect thank you?
You're welcome. Oh what a ways
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to go back to the hotel now
and just take it off. Would you
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like to go for a cup of
coffee? I prefer chocolate at night.
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I know just the place, Cafe
florid Huber. I know weanna well.
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From a student's viewpoint, I was
here as a medical student. You're a
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doctor, yes, yes, Well, I'm sorry I should have introduced myself.
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I'm all of drummer. You can
call me Dey. Beethoven and most
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I both played at this cafe,
so you'll be among good spirits. You
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said you very here as a student. Does that mean you are not here
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now? I live and work in
Berlin. I'm here visiting my old tutor
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and professor. Then did you stop
being a student here in nineteen sixteen,
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nine years? That means you must
be thirty two, much too old for
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me. I can't tell if you're
joking or not. Are you married?
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No? I seem to be too
busy to get into relationships other than I
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analyzing my patience. You always go
to concert alone, I suppose so,
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yes, music should be enjoyed in
the company. Well, I'm usually surrounded
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by an appreciative volumece of strangers.
Come see me again. I'm not a
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stranger anymore. We started writing letters
to each other. Dear all of thank
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you for your last letter, so
full of news and Berlin memories. My
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good news is I applied to join
the Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra and have been accepted.
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So I shall be back with my
parents in Berlin, and that means
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we shall be able to see each
other again. Tilney. As happy as
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I was that Tildor was coming to
Berlin, I felt equally as concerned about
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the state of the country. Having
read mine counted the book he had given
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me Munich, I realized what Hitler
was spousing. Then in nineteen thirty three,
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the political, ambitious corporal became Chancellor
and returned to Berlin. The following
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year, nineteen thirty four, his
storm troopers purged the Nazi Party during the
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Night of the Long Knife, muttering
all opposing elements in the party, and
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following President Hinnibur's death in August,
Hitler declared himself Fewer Germany's supreme leader,
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and one day later the same year, I was summoned to Bernheim's office.
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He explained that, having been called
in by Hitler's personal physician, doctor Morrell,
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the previous year, he had been
treating the Fewer recurring bouts of depression
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with heavy medication, and he went
on to say that Hitler had demanded he
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sent young drum Irk to see him, so he remembered me, and to
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my horror, he trusted me.
Bernheim furnished me with a strong injectable medication,
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of which he assured me Hitler was
in need of. In Bernheim's opinion,
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Hitler held progress from a neurotic state
to that of a psychotic and was
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far beyond the reach of my psychotherapy
method. You're not my doctor. I
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was told you requested me specifically.
Whoever told you that was mistaken. You
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shouldn't be here, Adolf. I
am here. We may as well talk,
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right. You should address me as
your europe Why did you ask me
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for a meeting today? I told
you, is there a reason someone might
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have thought you required my assistance?
It must have been explained to you it
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was, and I want to hear
you say you want who helped me as
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your doctor to hear the reason why
in your own words. There are times
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I wish to die. I look
at my gun and I mentioned firing it
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into my brain. No one would
ever believe a suicide if it'd be presumed
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my enemies had assassinated me, the
people would rise up carry on my work
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in my name. Have you picked
up the gun when you think these thoughts?
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No, Well then they just thoughts. I hold this entire nation,
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It's future within me, the burden
and the liars and the traitors surrounding me.
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Which liars and traders? Everyone?
I read them, and they sprout
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again. Well, how do you
know they are liars and traders? I
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can sense it. So how do
you know that I'm not a liar or
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a trader? You're Swedish. You
admit it only by your own definition,
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but deep down you are of good
German Aryan stock. Be not mistaken as
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the Jews are mistaken in claiming that
Christ was Jewish. He was born with
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a Teutonic warrior serving in that area
of the world. I notice I tell
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you this as your supreme leader the
fure, you shall study your fiero's mind
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and learn on this. I do
insist years ago, if you were the
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recipient of some of my innermost thoughts
and experiences, you were analyzing me,
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and you shall do so again.
For now, give me Bernheim's injection and
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leave hi. Hitler, good day, health doctor. So you have just
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come from attendings of fiora officer crunch
we meet again, or burst of Fior
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crumbs. You're in a privileged association
with Fior doctor that makes you a most
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honorable citizen. By becoming a member
of our party, you will be doing
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consider our both service. Won't you
join us? Value still have a chance.
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Some days later, Bernheim informed me
that I had made quite an impression
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on the fewer and that he insisted
on seeing me for some further therapy session.
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Bernheim added that, in his opinion, that would be total waste of
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time, but the fuwer was insistent. I had no wish to interfere with
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this treatment program. But the professor
replied, it's not wise to confront this
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man with a refusal, and besides
that, he had no one else to
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recommend. If you leave your bishops
there, olof my dear, I'll have
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you checkmate in two moves. Oh
what? Oh yeah, yea, I'm
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sorry. Let me move in here. That's better. You seem distracted tonight,
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my darling. Is everything all right? Yes, yes, it's just
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that I've been assigned a patient that
I rather not have to deal with the
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caton someone I would know right now, I really can say. As I
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entered the huge office of the Fuer, I was even more reluctant to continue
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my psychoanalysis or the monster Hitler had
become since the days of the lowly corporal
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I've seen at the Belitz Hospital back
in nineteen eighteen, some sixteen years ago.
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I appreciate you're asking me for further
therapy session, mind Furer, but
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I don't believe we can go any
further now. Why not my skills?
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My skill is beneath you. I
don't deserve this honor we started at the
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bailis yes, and we shall now
go forward together. Have you come to
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believe in fate? Doctor? Perhaps
I have. I think you should do
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You truly won't help you tell me
the truth? No one else around me
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does. As long as I live
and breathe, we shall be yoked together.
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You now have a therapy practice of
a single client, Doctor Juma.
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Any thoughts that medicine had advanced considerably
in the last hundred years of warfare quickly
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banished as I walked into Belitz Military
Hospital outside Berlin. I'm here to work
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on the Professor Bernheim, one of
Germany's pre eminent psychiatrists, and he's happy
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to tell you so. Bernheim struggles
to pronounce my name, and to be
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fair, I'm Swedish old of Drummer. I studied under Professor Sigmund Freud in
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Vienna. Bernheim knows how to pronounce
Freud's name and does so, as one
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might say, as a curse.
Labor One is a fan of Freud and
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is emerging psychoanalytical methods, but I
specialize in them. Most of the patients
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in the general ward here have terrible
physical wounds. Those in the psychiatric unit
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are suffering from a newly designated ailment, shell shock, and according to Freud,
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all these men have severe and roses
leading to organic symptoms sound organs,
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refusing function, limbs, tongue,
eyes. Here all unresponsive to incoming stimulate
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the shocked brain. Worth witness or
experience incidents so horrific as to be unbearable
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would diverge by converting these blocked out
memories into physical pain or fault in order
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to render them in a more acceptable
form. I sit in my clinical room.
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There is a knock on the door, and my first patient comes in
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and hands over his fire pale,
brooding with a thick brush mustache. He
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stands at attention while he looks at
me. I can feel his eyes boring
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into me. I read the medical
pile. Adolf Hitler Corporal Signal Runner sixteenth
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Bavarian Reserve Regiment, shrapnel wound to
left thigh at Psalm nineteen sixteen, Awarded
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the Iron Cross, a second class
reposted to a front line after discharge.
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Must At gas victim at Uprey in
nineteen eighteen, temporary blindness. I'm fit
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to turn. That's not yet decided, corporal, I'm fitted to return.
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How So two years ago the howardzer
shell kid all around me. I survived.
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Why Well, there could be many
reasons. Name one. Look and
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now you're once again an unfortunate victim
and a mustard gas attack at the prey
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and you sustain another significant injury.
I am not a victim. Well you
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did, nevertheless, suffering the attack, did you not? Does it not
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stay there? That I was struck
blind. Yeah, do I seem blind?
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Apparently your blindness was temporary. Do
you recall Soul of Tauses Saint Paul?
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Yes? I do, He too
was an aream and he was struck
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blind. I see he went on
like this. His military exploit gave him
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a feeling of being Destiny's chosen son. His constant harping on his special status
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to me screamed of deep insecurity.
Before I went to medical school in Vienna,
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Professor Sigmund Freud had developed his theories
and the practice of psychoanalysis. He
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maintained that people suffer inherent of roses
stemming from traumatic episodes dating from earliest childhood,
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even from birth, and that these
are suppressed deeply within their subconscious mind.
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We have frequent sessions during Corporal Hitler's
stay here at Belitz, his combatative
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and clearly feels my presence is an
annoyance to be suffered through. Would you
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care to talk to me about your
childhood? Why? Well? Were you
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happy as a child? My childhood
has no pertinence. It could I wish
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to be discharged now returned to active
duty? Were I beaten and sodomized as
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a child, or lovingly handled his
supportive care. Neither would change the fact
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that I am a capable soldier and
I belong with my men. Well,
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you're not yet ready for that,
corpron We have a little way to go
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before you deemed fit for further military
service. More sessions went on fruitlessly.
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Finally, in desperation, I tried
another tactic, Corporal Adolph, I know
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you've seen death. I have as
well, another of your patients, perhaps
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a suicide, as the tired of
your babbling no no. When I was
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six, I had a playmate at
school, a girl. Her name was
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Elsa. We were at the same
age. One wet afternoon, her mother
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caught the two of us in a
woodshed examining each other. As neither of
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us had a brother or a sister. It was a union situation as we
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discovered the essential difference between boys and
girls. What happened, Well, to
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back up, Elsa did have a
brother, but he drowned in a lake
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when she was just a baby,
and her father had died in a shipwreck
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before she was born. So it
was just Elsa, who used to stutter,
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and a mother who was very,
very strict, And that afternoon,
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when she discovered us, her mother
was very angry and threatened to get to
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my grandfather to cut off my penis
with his biggest knife. He and my
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father are both surgeons. After that, I started to stutter, just like
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Elsa. Ever well, went on
distress. My grandmother said Elsa's family had
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madness. I asked my father what
cost it, and he said men caught
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sickness from women that led to madness, nearly your disease. My mother said,
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none of that's wrong. She said
Elsa's mother was that way because of
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her family's misfortune. But that's not
the worst part. What is Six years
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later, hours away at boarding school, and came home for the summer vacation
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to some terrible news. At that
time, Else had started to menstruate and
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her mother could not cope, so
she stabbed Helps to death and then hanged
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herself. Madness, madness, Yes, why would you tell me this?
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Ever since those episodes have prevented me
from establishing relationships with girls and now with
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women, your childhood has affected your
adult life. Yes, I never told
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anyone this before. Thank you.
From then on, our relationship changed.
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I learned about him, both from
him and from others in the hospital,
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and knew him Adolf Hitler was born
in Austria in eighteen eighty nine and his
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father, Aloua, was the illegitimate
son of Mariah Schicklgruber, and when Mariah
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became the third wife of Johann Heidler, he adopted the five year old boy.
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But it wasn't until he was forty
that Aloa Schicklgruber legally changed its surname
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to Hidler, and it was rumored
that Aloua's father had been the son of
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a Jewish family for whom his mother, Maria, had worked as a housekeeper.
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After spending a career as a custom
officer, by eighteen ninety six,
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was retired to a small farm in
half Her, Austria, where he kept
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livestock and bees while his wife,
Hitler's mother Clara, tended her vegetable garden.
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This garden would be the source of
Hitler's first significant confession to me.
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I was seven and my mother was
alone in her vegetable garden when she discovered
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that my father's ducks had ripped up
her garden pea plants, and she threatened
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to wring their necks in her distress. She did not know I had overheard
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her, as I was coming from
the house and going off to the village,
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and you did something about this.
In the village, I was accosted
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by some bigger boys who bullied me
and insulted my father and my mother.
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I ran back home in a rage
and killed all my father's ducks. And
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how did your parents react? I
did it to please my mother, but
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my father didn't see it that day
and I received a severe beating. Now,
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how did you feel about that?
Betrayed better? I got used to
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them. Corporal Hitler remained under my
care at the village for the next few
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weeks. We had established our patient
therapist bomb but he remained frustrated at his
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medical incarceration. He was still there
when Kaiser Wilhelm abdicated and Germany's surrender and
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the armistice was signed in November nineteen
eighteen. Admissed the general celebration and relief
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being expressed by all the other patients
and staff. Corporal Hitler remained aloof becoming
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more and more angered and hysterical,
and after the war he returned to Munich,
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but remained in the army and was
appointed as an intelligence agent to infiltrate
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the German workers Party there. His
nationalist views and oratorical skills led him to
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becoming a member of the party,
and by nineteen twenty four he was the
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leader of the National Socialist German Workers'
Party known as the Nazi Party. Though
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I lost track of him as a
patient, his name appeared often in the
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newspapers as his political activities advanced,
and I maintained a close interest in him.
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Then I happened to be spending an
eight in Munich on my way to
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Vianna to visit my old mentor.
Passing around a beer hall, I heard
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this unmistakable voice. A meeting was
being addressed by my one time patient,
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and I decided to go in.
I never not a backer, I perfectly
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can vouch forever changed, said the
back. I do not recall seeing you
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here before? Good morning? Are
you a party member? Well, no,
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no, I'm just passing through me
and to come away to Vienna.
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I'm known Adol for some years and
I just wanted to come and see him
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again in actual so to speak.
What he remember you? I'm sure he
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will, who hasn't seen me since
he was in Bellaire. In that case,
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I can arrange it. After the
meetings. Stay here. You must
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consider joining the party. You know, if we need men like you,
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I'm sure you understand. I want
a brute, just basic security. You
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understand, m zaghaire mine fila.
Who is this? He says, You
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and he are old friends from Poulin. Ah, I see it now,
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the good doctor. My mind is
too preoccupied, Colm Doronic, How are
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you sit down? Oh? Well, thank you. I'm sure you're very
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busy these days. Indeed, I
am here. I want you to take
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that and study it. My book, Oh mind comps I struggle, But
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he's not a victim. I wrote
it while in prison. Can you believe
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it? They put me in prison
for disturbing the peace. They called it
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treason. I told them I was
standing up for German workers' rights, and
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they led me out once they realized
how mistaken they were. We heard about
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it in Berlin. In Berlin,
yes, So what brings you to Munich?
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Apart from seeing me? Of course, I'm on my way to the
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add to visit my old mentor,
Professor Freud. The glow went out in
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his eyes, Sigmund Freud, charlottean
and some people think so well, I'm
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not one of them. You shouldn't
associate with someone like him. They are
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better German experts on the mind.
You're German, why not learn from them.
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I'm Swedish and I came to this
country by way of Professor Bernheim's invitation
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and to work under him. No, no, I had, doctor Drummer.
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You are mistaken. You came to
this country because it was your destiny
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to recognize Germany as the greatest,
the strongest of all nations. You came
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from Swee, but your father was
German. I noticed only a German father
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could have endowed you with the distinct
features blue eyes, blonde hair, strong
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physique that our destiny's emblem. I'm
sorry to disappoint you, but my father
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is also Swedish. He grinned,
but it was a grin that left a
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cold pit of dread in my stomach. Thank you for the visit, doctor,
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Remember what I told you, A
man like you should join the party.
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It will stand you in good stead. Mind how you go Nowadays,
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Munich can be our of city,
especially at night. In my deal with
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Hitler, I found him to always
have a simmering fanitism, mostly about himself,
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lurking beneath the surface. Slight though
he was in some ways I felt
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the man shouting at an audience was
his true form, whilst the man who
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smiled at me was another mask,
a person like him having found evodeed followers.
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Well, I didn't know what to
make of it. The following day,
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I traveled to Vianna and visited my
old professor. He gave me a
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concert ticket that he was unable to
use. I didn't realize how much that
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gift was to change my life,
as I told Hitler, which I remember
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with a feeling of violation. Since
boyhood I had a trouble relating to girls,
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and perhaps even more so to women
as I grew older. M a
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border cissage from the flower cellar outside
the concert hall, and I took it
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to the violinist who had thrilled me
as she departed with her violin case.
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Ms Man Leafen. Yes, would
you please accept this small token for the
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joy you have given me this evening? How kind? Thank you? Won't
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you put it for me just here? I'm not sure I can do that?
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Oh please do It's very easy,
but I'm hindered carrying this all right,
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like like this perfect thank you?
You're welcome. Oh what a ways
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to go back to the hotel now
and just take it off. Would you
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like to go for a cup of
coffee? I prefer chocolate at night.
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I know just the place, Cafe
florid Huber. I know weanna well.
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From a student's viewpoint, I was
here as a medical student. You're a
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doctor, yes, yes, Well, I'm sorry I should have introduced myself.
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I'm all of drummer. You can
call me Dey. Beethoven and most
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I both played at this cafe,
so you'll be among good spirits. You
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said you very here as a student. Does that mean you are not here
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now? I live and work in
Berlin. I'm here visiting my old tutor
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and professor. Then did you stop
being a student here in nineteen sixteen,
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nine years? That means you must
be thirty two, much too old for
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me. I can't tell if you're
joking or not. Are you married?
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No? I seem to be too
busy to get into relationships other than I
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analyzing my patience. You always go
to concert alone, I suppose so,
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yes, music should be enjoyed in
the company. Well, I'm usually surrounded
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by an appreciative volumece of strangers.
Come see me again. I'm not a
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stranger anymore. We started writing letters
to each other. Dear all of thank
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you for your last letter, so
full of news and Berlin memories. My
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good news is I applied to join
the Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra and have been accepted.
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So I shall be back with my
parents in Berlin, and that means
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we shall be able to see each
other again. Tilney. As happy as
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I was that Tildor was coming to
Berlin, I felt equally as concerned about
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the state of the country. Having
read mine counted the book he had given
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me Munich, I realized what Hitler
was spousing. Then in nineteen thirty three,
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the political, ambitious corporal became Chancellor
and returned to Berlin. The following
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year, nineteen thirty four, his
storm troopers purged the Nazi Party during the
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Night of the Long Knife, muttering
all opposing elements in the party, and
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following President Hinnibur's death in August,
Hitler declared himself Fewer Germany's supreme leader,
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and one day later the same year, I was summoned to Bernheim's office.
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He explained that, having been called
in by Hitler's personal physician, doctor Morrell,
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the previous year, he had been
treating the Fewer recurring bouts of depression
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with heavy medication, and he went
on to say that Hitler had demanded he
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sent young drum Irk to see him, so he remembered me, and to
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my horror, he trusted me.
Bernheim furnished me with a strong injectable medication,
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of which he assured me Hitler was
in need of. In Bernheim's opinion,
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Hitler held progress from a neurotic state
to that of a psychotic and was
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far beyond the reach of my psychotherapy
method. You're not my doctor. I
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was told you requested me specifically.
Whoever told you that was mistaken. You
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shouldn't be here, Adolf. I
am here. We may as well talk,
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right. You should address me as
your europe Why did you ask me
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for a meeting today? I told
you, is there a reason someone might
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have thought you required my assistance?
It must have been explained to you it
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was, and I want to hear
you say you want who helped me as
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your doctor to hear the reason why
in your own words. There are times
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I wish to die. I look
at my gun and I mentioned firing it
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into my brain. No one would
ever believe a suicide if it'd be presumed
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my enemies had assassinated me, the
people would rise up carry on my work
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in my name. Have you picked
up the gun when you think these thoughts?
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No, Well then they just thoughts. I hold this entire nation,
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It's future within me, the burden
and the liars and the traitors surrounding me.
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Which liars and traders? Everyone?
I read them, and they sprout
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again. Well, how do you
know they are liars and traders? I
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can sense it. So how do
you know that I'm not a liar or
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a trader? You're Swedish. You
admit it only by your own definition,
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but deep down you are of good
German Aryan stock. Be not mistaken as
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the Jews are mistaken in claiming that
Christ was Jewish. He was born with
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a Teutonic warrior serving in that area
of the world. I notice I tell
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you this as your supreme leader the
fure, you shall study your fiero's mind
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and learn on this. I do
insist years ago, if you were the
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recipient of some of my innermost thoughts
and experiences, you were analyzing me,
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and you shall do so again.
For now, give me Bernheim's injection and
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leave hi. Hitler, good day, health doctor. So you have just
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come from attendings of fiora officer crunch
we meet again, or burst of Fior
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crumbs. You're in a privileged association
with Fior doctor that makes you a most
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honorable citizen. By becoming a member
of our party, you will be doing
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consider our both service. Won't you
join us? Value still have a chance.
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Some days later, Bernheim informed me
that I had made quite an impression
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on the fewer and that he insisted
on seeing me for some further therapy session.
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Bernheim added that, in his opinion, that would be total waste of
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time, but the fuwer was insistent. I had no wish to interfere with
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this treatment program. But the professor
replied, it's not wise to confront this
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man with a refusal, and besides
that, he had no one else to
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recommend. If you leave your bishops
there, olof my dear, I'll have
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you checkmate in two moves. Oh
what? Oh yeah, yea, I'm
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sorry. Let me move in here. That's better. You seem distracted tonight,
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my darling. Is everything all right? Yes, yes, it's just
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that I've been assigned a patient that
I rather not have to deal with the
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caton someone I would know right now, I really can say. As I
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entered the huge office of the Fuer, I was even more reluctant to continue
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my psychoanalysis or the monster Hitler had
become since the days of the lowly corporal
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I've seen at the Belitz Hospital back
in nineteen eighteen, some sixteen years ago.
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I appreciate you're asking me for further
therapy session, mind Furer, but
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I don't believe we can go any
further now. Why not my skills?
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My skill is beneath you. I
don't deserve this honor we started at the
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bailis yes, and we shall now
go forward together. Have you come to
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believe in fate? Doctor? Perhaps
I have. I think you should do
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You truly won't help you tell me
the truth? No one else around me
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does. As long as I live
and breathe, we shall be yoked together.
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You now have a therapy practice of
a single client, Doctor Juma.
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The Hitler File is a production of
Voyage Media. The series is produced by
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nat Mondel, Robert Midas and Dan
Bennomore, directed and produced by Dan Bennomore,
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written by Desmond Fosbery, based on
the novel The Drameric File by Brandon
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Rolfe, starring Peter Stormare as doctor
Drmieric and Denis O'Hare as Adolf Hitler.
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